In their latest book ‘Spy Stories: Inside the Secret World of the RAW and the ISI’, investigative journalists Cathy Scott-Clark, and Adrian Levy take a deep dive into the inner workings of the Indian and Pakistani intelligence agencies. Levy tells Sunday Times how the ‘The Wing’, as the RAW is known, has controlled the terror narrative against Pakistan
RAW and ISI are usually seen as less effective than their Western counterparts. Is this true or a cultivated cover?
Having spent many years observing both, it would be fair to say that both RAW and ISI are ruthless, disciplined and engaged in everything one associates with a spy agency — including recruiting liars, killers, cheats, knitting together the impossible and unlikely, manipulating local and international conditions, gathering and analysing data. A lot of spying — contrary to the movies — is also drudge work. The image of RAW is both cultivated but also a default as a draconian secrecy cloaks India, whereas ISI has never had to answer to the people, as they are underpinned by a military that prefers its own company, and fears exposure.
What has been RAW’s biggest success?
Apart from projecting itself as a victim, RAW’s soft power is stellar, working around the world in tandem with the diaspora and the MEA to sell a story of India and denigrate Pakistan. While India has been a real victim of terror and insurgency, much of which was fuelled by Pakistan, this is not the whole story. India is the protagonist too — or if...
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